Posts : 8157 Points : 8617 Reputation : 47 Join date : 2010-03-22 Age : 42 Location : Cali baby
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:37 am
gut wrote:
Well it is true that the game freezes constantly now ever since the patch, especially on menus and such, at least for me. I never had problems with freezing on bf3 until patch :/
lol really?
Never froze on the menu, and only froze once since patch.... 40 min into a 400% tix server
200% is the most I'll go now and I don't seem to have freezing issues.
sPurMiN_gErMin Lederhosen
Posts : 635 Points : 788 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2010-04-22 Location : in your bush
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:46 am
Posts : 1138 Points : 1214 Reputation : 28 Join date : 2010-03-23 Age : 31
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:54 pm
I have a question for you esteemed squires.
What boosts accuracy more, Flash Supp. or Heavy Barrel?
Why DICE had to fuck with the attachments I have no idea, nothing makes sense now, foregrip reduces long range accuracy, heavy barrel somehow increases it and gives tighter spread.
RoninHo'in Paranoid Vet
Posts : 8157 Points : 8617 Reputation : 47 Join date : 2010-03-22 Age : 42 Location : Cali baby
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:08 pm
Accuracy? Heavy Barrel
However, it increases recoil... so control your shots (1-3 rounds at a time)
Flash Suppressor REDUCES accuracy, and it also reduces recoil. This will benefit you more if you're runnin and gunnin sprayin like a mofo.
M249 w/ Pistol Grip & Flash Suppressor for example will do very well in CQB but you won't have the accuracy for longer shots.
Heavy barrel will more than offset the penalty from foregrip, but not by much. The recoil will be more vertical and less horizontal than normal.
Bipods are now viable attachments. The set up and break down time and "accuracy" (ie; going off when you want it) has been improved. Because foregrip is now a mixed bag, it's not always the best choice.... with lmg's especially, bipods are quite attractive, but even an AR could use one.
suppressor also reduces recoil akin to the flash suppressor. It obviously also makes you silent to not auto 3d spot yourself, while giving you a slower round requiring more lead, bullet drop compensation, and just more time from barrel to target for the enemy to get his kill shot in the air towards you (gives enemy more time to trade rather than you straight out win) It doesn't reduce min or max damage, but it does reduce the ranges where it loses dmg.
the laser sight increases hipfire (only) accuracy significantly, but does not affect recoil. combined with a foregrip this gives you the most control for run and gun hip-firing.
Skreshavik Mordekaiser
Posts : 5997 Points : 6336 Reputation : 55 Join date : 2010-04-30 Age : 34 Location : California/Oregon
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:39 pm
I always use a bipod, even with AR's, it's just 100% better than a foregrip
RoninHo'in Paranoid Vet
Posts : 8157 Points : 8617 Reputation : 47 Join date : 2010-03-22 Age : 42 Location : Cali baby
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:41 pm
lol?
canttellifseriousjoker.jpg
I haz bipod on my A91
Skreshavik Mordekaiser
Posts : 5997 Points : 6336 Reputation : 55 Join date : 2010-04-30 Age : 34 Location : California/Oregon
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:50 pm
The recoil mitigation isn't great enough to combat people at med to long ranges. Short range, you don't even need it unless you're spraying the SCAR, and even then...
RoninHo'in Paranoid Vet
Posts : 8157 Points : 8617 Reputation : 47 Join date : 2010-03-22 Age : 42 Location : Cali baby
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:51 pm
My Heavy barrel G3A3 would like to have a word with you....
GorillazInm1st TITS or GTFO
Posts : 1581 Points : 1743 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2010-03-19 Age : 32
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:56 pm
Use G3 with under-slung rail and M26 dart. Accuracy is bugged and you can one shot people from some ridiculous ranges.
Skreshavik Mordekaiser
Posts : 5997 Points : 6336 Reputation : 55 Join date : 2010-04-30 Age : 34 Location : California/Oregon
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:38 pm
RoninHo'in wrote:
My Heavy barrel G3A3 would like to have a word with you....
ok
bat Gutman with a gat
Posts : 5334 Points : 5931 Reputation : 84 Join date : 2010-03-19 Age : 37 Location : A spot.
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:43 pm
Assult kit should have the option to use any PDW or shotgun to replace the medkit, since you already pretty much carry around a secondary shotgun anyway if you have no underslugn rail
whats the point of underslugn rail anyway? The switching speed between my primary and my shotgun/GL doesnt seem disastrously slow, why would i take underslugn rail over a bipod or grip? Just to use tac light with my shotgun secondary? Another thing is your gun blocks so much of the screen like that when you could just have the secondary out by itself instead of the whole god damn gun and all of its shit blocking half the screen
GorillazInm1st TITS or GTFO
Posts : 1581 Points : 1743 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2010-03-19 Age : 32
Assult kit should have the option to use any PDW or shotgun to replace the medkit, since you already pretty much carry around a secondary shotgun anyway if you have no underslugn rail
whats the point of underslugn rail anyway? The switching speed between my primary and my shotgun/GL doesnt seem disastrously slow, why would i take underslugn rail over a bipod or grip? Just to use tac light with my shotgun secondary? Another thing is your gun blocks so much of the screen like that when you could just have the secondary out by itself instead of the whole god damn gun and all of its shit blocking half the screen
That is the point of the under-slung rail. When the M26 is attached to your primary, it takes on the benefits of your attachments. In this case the heavy barrel, which increases the range at which you maintain maximum damage.
DTECH Master of Facts, Factual Evidence, and Facts
Posts : 4541 Points : 4745 Reputation : -115 Join date : 2010-03-19 Location : Here
Assult kit should have the option to use any PDW or shotgun to replace the medkit, since you already pretty much carry around a secondary shotgun anyway if you have no underslugn rail
whats the point of underslugn rail anyway? The switching speed between my primary and my shotgun/GL doesnt seem disastrously slow, why would i take underslugn rail over a bipod or grip? Just to use tac light with my shotgun secondary? Another thing is your gun blocks so much of the screen like that when you could just have the secondary out by itself instead of the whole god damn gun and all of its shit blocking half the screen
That is the point of the under-slung rail. When the M26 is attached to your primary, it takes on the benefits of your attachments. In this case the heavy barrel, which increases the range at which you maintain maximum damage.
LOL DICE patching/balancing at its finest
RoninHo'in Paranoid Vet
Posts : 8157 Points : 8617 Reputation : 47 Join date : 2010-03-22 Age : 42 Location : Cali baby
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:40 am
heavy barrel you say hmmmm
Def gonna give that a try
Eradicated Murderous Crack Fiend
Posts : 1138 Points : 1214 Reputation : 28 Join date : 2010-03-23 Age : 31
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:23 am
Honestly its fucking ridiculous, DICE can never release a patch without fucking something up. You know something is wrong when you see something that makes the pre-patch USAS 12 Fragger look like a well balanced carefully thought out weapon. I'd rather have that be OHK'd by a fucking underbarrel shotgun from miles out.
DTECH Master of Facts, Factual Evidence, and Facts
Posts : 4541 Points : 4745 Reputation : -115 Join date : 2010-03-19 Location : Here
Subject: Re: Rent a server... Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:09 am
Eradicated wrote:
Honestly its fucking ridiculous, DICE can never release a patch without fucking something up. You know something is wrong when you see something that makes the pre-patch USAS 12 Fragger look like a well balanced carefully thought out weapon. I'd rather have that be OHK'd by a fucking underbarrel shotgun from miles out.
If they weren't producing games they would do well for themselves in government positions