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Skreshavik wrote:
Good thing I saw the light of PC gaming, don't have to deal with shit P2P nor shit servers.

How 'bout shit hackorz?
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And that's why God made admins.
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Skreshavik wrote:
And that's why God made admins.

How about shit admins?
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then you have multiple server choices...

Hip-fire is NOT as accurate as ADS.... they said as much...

They have said there is a reason to use both, and whichever you prefer will be valid with it's own pros/cons


Cover and fire player? ADS... run and gun? well ADS won't spray all over the effing place.

Probably a lot like having Steady Aim on or something
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My guess is that brink will fail just like most newer FPS. I know you're excited for it Ronin, but it's better to be pleasantly surprised than to get your hopes dashed.

And if the hipfire is overly accurate it will ruin a game for me. Killzone was the same way.
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Ronin0ni wrote:
then you have multiple server choices...
Ronin's got it. If you get a shit admin, try to crash the server, grief it, or don't use it Razz
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Nice thing about Brink is that if you don't like the servers, just play co-op with friends. Seems like it will be easier to play on your own console and get others to come to you if they want a public match.

I am with Ronin, I think this will be a fun game. I, too, am concerned about P2P. However, with Splash Damage's desire to make the transition from SP to co-op to MP seemless, P2P makes some sense. Otherwise they have to have enough servers for every two people who want to play co-op together.
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Skreshavik wrote:

Ronin's got it. If you get a shit admin, try to crash the server, grief it, or don't use it Razz

So how does one chose map he wants to play on PC?
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So how does one chose map he wants to play on PC?

Via filters, with thousands of servers up, you WILL find the server you want.

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CptnShotgun wrote:


Via filters, with thousands of servers up, you WILL find the server you want.


Well I want

Local server
Almost full
Playing map I want
Not round 2 of 2 which is almost over
Where our team has at least 1 flag
Not HC
Where there are no hackers
Where there are no stupid admins

How long do you think I would be looking for a server like this? I think very long time.
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Well I want

Local server
Almost full
Playing map I want
Not round 2 of 2 which is almost over
Where our team has at least 1 flag
Not HC
Where there are no hackers
Where there are no stupid admins

How long do you think I would be looking for a server like this? I think very long time.

Oh I see what you did there, trying to come up with an impossible scenario to prove that PC is inferior to the steaming pile of horseshit that is P2P. But I'll play ball.

Local servers are easy to find, it even tells you what country the server is based in, and what city in that country.
Tells you how many people are in each server.
Finding the map you want is piss easy
Chances that you'll get a game that's almost finished is the same on both PC and P2P
Again, as above, chances of that happening are the same on P2P and PC
Server browser shows you if it's HC or not
If you're on a VAC protected server/server with admins/both the chances of hackers are slim
There's very rarely stupid admins, that is just common belief for console players so that have at least one point to use in the defence of P2P

Next time, it would be better to pick a scenario where P2P would actually do BETTER than PC, not vice versa... 0/10
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CptnShotgun wrote:

Chances that you'll get a game that's almost finished is the same on both PC and P2P

Those chances are something like 99% I think. Fucking hate joining a S&D game and it's 0-3 for the enemy team, into the 4th round, with 2 of our guys with 0/3 alive and 5 of their guys 5/0 alive.
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Those chances are something like 99% I think. Fucking hate joining a S&D game and it's 0-3 for the enemy team, into the 4th round, with 2 of our guys with 0/3 alive and 5 of their guys 5/0 alive.

I know the feeling.
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Oh I see what you did there, trying to come up with an impossible scenario to prove that PC is inferior to the steaming pile of horseshit that is P2P. But I'll play ball.

Local servers are easy to find, it even tells you what country the server is based in, and what city in that country.
Tells you how many people are in each server.
Finding the map you want is piss easy
Chances that you'll get a game that's almost finished is the same on both PC and P2P
Again, as above, chances of that happening are the same on P2P and PC
Server browser shows you if it's HC or not
If you're on a VAC protected server/server with admins/both the chances of hackers are slim
There's very rarely stupid admins, that is just common belief for console players so that have at least one point to use in the defence of P2P

Next time, it would be better to pick a scenario where P2P would actually do BETTER than PC, not vice versa... 0/10

I regularly check PC servers on BFBCs.com and full servers are like first 3 pages then after few more pages there are like 8 vs 8 and few more pages and all the servers are empty.

1000s servers you say? LOL. "What good is a phone call if you cannot speak"

EDIT: Sorry forgot to specify if filtered by just map.
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Killzone_Kid wrote:


I regularly check PC servers on BFBCs.com and full servers are like first 3 pages then after few more pages there are like 8 vs 8 and few more pages and all the servers are empty.

1000s servers you say? LOL. "What good is a phone call if you cannot speak"

EDIT: Sorry forgot to specify if filtered by just map.

I'm checking the servers, page 33, 30 players in every server...

And you think laggy games, unreliable matchmaking and no control over most aspects of the match (time limit etc...) is somehow better?

Right...
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CptnShotgun wrote:


I'm checking the servers, page 33, 30 players in every server...

And you think laggy games, unreliable matchmaking and no control over most aspects of the match (time limit etc...) is somehow better?

Right...

I did say filtered by map didn't I?

Try

Country : UK
Map: Hastings
Mode: Conquest

5 servers from which 1 is HC and 1 is full so really only 3 servers.
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I like how you use a map from Vietnam, because you know less people will have it, and therefore less people will be on it.

And you seem to be so intent on proving that PC servers are bad, but have said nothing good about P2P, why is that I wonder?
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Killzone_Kid wrote:
Well I want

Local server
Almost full
Playing map I want
Not round 2 of 2 which is almost over
Where our team has at least 1 flag
Not HC
Where there are no hackers
Where there are no stupid admins

How long do you think I would be looking for a server like this? I think very long time.
And I want a 2011 Suzuki GSX-R1000 with free health insurance and a Taco Bell down the street, but we both know that isn't gonna happen Coffee Cup

Anyways, it isn't hard to find something like what you requested depending on popularity. Counterstrike: Source for example still have several hundred servers running, which is highly likely you'll find something you'll want (unless you make it completely obscure.) Medal of Honor: Allied Assault on the other hand is fudge dead and I couldn't find a full server if my soul depended on it.

If Brink's a hit, expect to find a server you'll love and possibly donate to, if it's a flop, don't expect much.
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CptnShotgun wrote:
I like how you use a map from Vietnam, because you know less people will have it, and therefore less people will be on it.

And you seem to be so intent on proving that PC servers are bad, but have said nothing good about P2P, why is that I wonder?

Hastings is the most popular map. But no problem

UK, Laguna Presa, Conquest - 1 official multiplay server with only 20 slots not even 24 like on consoles.
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And I want a 2011 Suzuki GSX-R1000 with free health insurance and a Taco Bell down the street, but we both know that isn't gonna happen BRINK Returns (to the Topics list) ... - Page 3 613626

Anyways, it isn't hard to find something like what you requested depending on popularity. Counterstrike: Source for example still have several hundred servers running, which is highly likely you'll find something you'll want (unless you make it completely obscure.) Medal of Honor: Allied Assault on the other hand is fudge dead and I couldn't find a full server if my soul depended on it.

If Brink's a hit, expect to find a server you'll love and possibly donate to, if it's a flop, don't expect much.

As I demonstrated, even wanting

My country
Map I want
Mode I want

only, limits the choice significantly. This is why servers managed by stupid admins can be real pain in the arse.
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Hastings is the most popular map. But no problem

UK, Laguna Presa, Conquest - 1 official multiplay server with only 20 slots not even 24 like on consoles.

I don't know where you got the "Hastings is the most popular map" from, because all the Vietnam maps are at the bottom in terms of amount of servers running those maps, on account of it being DLC (and quite expensive at that)

And while yes, there may be a considerable amount of empty servers, you are talking about BC2, which is pretty much a dead game, and I don't see P2P doing any better in terms of amount of players.

Now if we take a game that's still very much alive, such as Black Ops, and there are far more servers, and far more players to fill those servers.

You also say about servers managed by stupid admins, but they are a very small minority, I would say equal if not less to the amount of lagswitchers on P2P.

Now I can tell you the benefits of PC servers, but what are the benefits of P2P?
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Killzone_Kid wrote:
My country
Map I want
Mode I want

only, limits the choice significantly. This is why servers managed by stupid admins can be real pain in the arse.

You're 100% right. Every single server on PC is run by some shanty-town Afghani opium farm Admins hell-bent on soloing you out, Killzone because they hate everything about you. Your favorite color, your mother, your future wife, your favorite alphabetical soup, they hate it all. They even make pornos of them raping your mom with bullet holes.


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Every. Single. Fucking. Server.
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Skreshavik wrote:


You're 100% right. Every single server on PC is run by some shanty-town Afghani opium farm Admins hell-bent on soloing you out, Killzone because they hate everything about you. Your favorite color, your mother, your future wife, your favorite alphabetical soup, they hate it all. They even make pornos of them raping your mom with bullet holes.

Har Har Har I read PC sections sometimes and autokick when your K/D > 10 is not uncommon. Seriously? I understand many people won't get there, but I often do. Not to mention some other weird rules like you cannot shoot while at base etc etc.

@Shotgun. what do you mean by P2P, peer to peer? If so then BC2 on consoles runs on dedi just like PC, I thought you knew.
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Well, you seem intent to believe the anomalies are in every single server, with devil admins wanting to eviscerate your asshole every chance they get, no exceptions...so fuck you too?
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